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Ads in the Age of AI

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@rafael.ungvari over 1 year ago

I think that in the future it will be similar to now. If you google something today the first 4 items are ads, so Google shifted the best organic results for the company that paid the most. I think in the future probably the first 4 results of what an LLM will output will be paid. If you ask it: what are the best tennis balls, the first four results will be paid and the rest is what the LLM would show you organically. So the principal will be the same and it will probably be even harder to distinguish, what is the AIs „intelligence“ and what is their because a company paid for it. This will even be scarier if our (free) AI Agent doesn‘t buy the item that is best for us but the item a company paid to show the agent first.

Evan Armstrong over 1 year ago

@rafael.ungvari Maybe? on a technical level I don't know you accomplish that. I think LLMs act has harbingers of truth in a way that google doesn’t and isn’t congruent with native advertising. Not trusting 1 of 10 blue links is normal. Not trusting the total answer of an LLM is bad.

seth godin over 1 year ago

Evan, I think you might be misunderstanding the "you are the product" idea.

You wrote:
However, the criticism misses some of what is integral about ads. There is a popular quote that has bugged me for years. You’ve seen it before: “If the service is free, you are the product.” No! Wrong! If the service is free, the clicks on the ads are the product. This is fundamentally different. A free service with ads is monetizing users’ actions, not users themselves.

Here's the way the media company thinks about this:

"We need to go sell our ads. We're going to be able to do that with two things:
1. the demographics of the audience. Are they a group that advertisers want to reach. (worth highlighting that the ad people use the word 'target' which of course, is a hunting term).
2. the actions of the audience. Can we get them in the mood to do something.

But in both cases, what's on offer is the audience. Their attention and the manipulation/shift in their actions.

Is there any doubt that using Facebook changes the people who use it? Changes their attention, their point of view, their heartrate, heartbreak and actions?

FB changes people the way US Steel changes iron.

That's what their factory does.

Evan Armstrong over 1 year ago

@sethgodin Thanks for the feedback! I personally delineate between users actions on the free platform vs users interaction with the ads. All the targeting in the world doesn't make a difference if the user doesn't actually engage with the ad. Audience action>audience access.

Facebook does change people who use it, but that is just as much through the interaction with the content as the advertisements. I would agree this is net bad but I feel that way about many content publishers and platforms. (which is what I called out here https://every.to/napkin-math/the-addiction-economy).

There is also a degree of infantilization that I disagree with in the "ads manipulate people view." People have agency and there is no threat of violence in an advertisement—they still have the free will to buy or not buy.

Thanks again for the feedback!

seth godin over 1 year ago

@ItsUrBoyEvan Well...

Do you think FB (or the New Yorker) is architected the way it is because of the business model?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7173757/

Of course ads work. And ads manipulate us when they encourage us to do something we regret later.

It's a trap to pretend that it's all benign. Of course some serve a useful purpose. But they don't belong everywhere, they shouldn't be permitted to be targeted at everyone, and most of all, the creators of the media and the ads should take responsibility for the effects (not side effects) of their work.

@sokesson over 1 year ago

Great article, Evan, and an incredibly important topic! One thing to recognize: The people at Perplexity are almost certainly planning how to monetize their LLM-based search engine beyond (or replacing) the $20/month subscription. I don't think they would want to offer advertisers the ability to influence answers, as that would destroy user trust. Instead, I imagine advertisers offered the ability to place their own LLM-based answers in parallel (to the right?) with these answers steering users to their products and providing hyperlinks to their own websites. Google could adopt this approach, thereby preempting such a move by Perplexity. Such an approach by LLM-based search engines could preserve the advertising revenues in the "system" while also creating greater value to users.

@radicallypracticalgravity over 1 year ago

Clicks on ads are the result of people's actions. They can't be separated as inanimate. The "...you are the product" business drives this point home, but I don't like it.